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	<title>Comments on: What is a startup company worth?</title>
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		<title>By: Dave Moskovitz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Moskovitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 05:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danielle, what you suggest is fairly easy to implement through convertible notes.  With a convertible note, the investor lends the company a set amount of money, and there are specific conditions that will trigger either repayment of the loan, or the loan converting into equity at a rate according to a pre-agreed formula.

As a simple example, an investor might agree to invest [$200,000] in your business on using a convertible note; if after one year your sales are less than [$200,000] then the loan would convert to shares at [$1] per share; if sales are greater than that then the price would be [$0.50] per share - giving you a big incentive to make the company perform.  

You can get a lot fancier with the formula, and the investor will likely want security over the whole company and its assets, so that if things really turn to custard they can step in and either run the company themselves or liquidate the company in an attempt to make good on some of their loss.

Convertible Notes can be useful in some circumstances, but I generally prefer straight equity deals with few strings attached because I like to get involved very early on.  They can also complicate the situation in further capital raises. That said, so long as everybody understands the limitations, they can be a useful tool in exactly the situation you describe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danielle, what you suggest is fairly easy to implement through convertible notes.  With a convertible note, the investor lends the company a set amount of money, and there are specific conditions that will trigger either repayment of the loan, or the loan converting into equity at a rate according to a pre-agreed formula.</p>
<p>As a simple example, an investor might agree to invest [$200,000] in your business on using a convertible note; if after one year your sales are less than [$200,000] then the loan would convert to shares at [$1] per share; if sales are greater than that then the price would be [$0.50] per share &#8211; giving you a big incentive to make the company perform.  </p>
<p>You can get a lot fancier with the formula, and the investor will likely want security over the whole company and its assets, so that if things really turn to custard they can step in and either run the company themselves or liquidate the company in an attempt to make good on some of their loss.</p>
<p>Convertible Notes can be useful in some circumstances, but I generally prefer straight equity deals with few strings attached because I like to get involved very early on.  They can also complicate the situation in further capital raises. That said, so long as everybody understands the limitations, they can be a useful tool in exactly the situation you describe.</p>
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		<title>By: Danielle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danielle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 01:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there potential to reach agreement through conditional valuations? I think the market potential is much bigger because I&#039;ve identified four segments where the product can be applied, but you disagree because you think only two will pick it up. We agree a metric that indicates which is right, and if that metric goes past an agreed point the valuation is different? Fraught, I realise, with the potential for metric management and general distortion, which is why I ask if they occur.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there potential to reach agreement through conditional valuations? I think the market potential is much bigger because I&#8217;ve identified four segments where the product can be applied, but you disagree because you think only two will pick it up. We agree a metric that indicates which is right, and if that metric goes past an agreed point the valuation is different? Fraught, I realise, with the potential for metric management and general distortion, which is why I ask if they occur.</p>
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